Piccolo (Saiyan Saga) Vs Saiyan Saga Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Krillin, Yajirobe and Chaozu

Who wins!?.

team wins.... tien and krillin together might be able to take him down. yajirobie and chazu are non factors and would get killed easily

Chiaotzus explosion would damage Piccolo....

Picccolo wins easily...Only reason why Krillin/Tien took hits from Nappa was cause he was playing around...

Piccolo-3500

Tenshinhan-1830
Krillin-1770
Yamcha-1480

Chiaotzu-610
Yajirobe-970

Tien might do some damage with a Kikoho or Krillin with the Kinzean...but thats really it...

Piccolo-2.000
Ten-1.800
Kuririn-1.750
Yamcha-1.400
Yadjirobe-350
Chaozu-400

Team stomps.

Merle Dixon wrote:

Chiaotzus explosion would damage Piccolo....

lol, he tried the explosion on piccolo before, it didnt work, piccolo just extended his arm and slammed him into the ground killing him

MercenaryTao115 wrote:

Merle Dixon wrote:

Chiaotzus explosion would damage Piccolo....

lol, he tried the explosion on piccolo before, it didnt work, piccolo just extended his arm and slammed him into the ground killing him

Hmmm...good point...forgot about that LOL.

Piccolo was stronger at that point tho, above Nappa...but still your right it wouldint do shit.

withheldforprivacy wrote:

Piccolo-2.000
Ten-1.800
Kuririn-1.750
Yamcha-1.400
Yadjirobe-350
Chaozu-400

Team stomps.

Okay...

No way is Tenshinhan 90% of Piccolo...In the Japanese Anime Tenshinhan states he fears Piccolo becoming evil again....

Piccolo was also much stronger at the start of Z...

You have Kuririn to close to Tenshinhan, and Yamcha to far behind...

it should be

Tenshinhan 70% of Piccolo (I believe he was above 250 since he trains with weighted training clothes...)
Kuririn 80% of Tenshinhan
Yamcha 85% of Kuririn

around the start of Z Gaps...

This is a good way to do it....

Piccolo 408
Tenshinhan 250
~W/O Weights 300
Kuririn 206
Yamcha 177

Now, multiply by around 7.5...(give Piccolo slightly less of a boost, as he was training Gohan most of the time unable to fully train his abilities and the Humans had multiple sparring partners...)

Nappa (Suppressed) 4000
Piccolo 2300
Tenshinhan 1890
Kuririn 1545
Yamcha 1327

Team proabably wins... But Yamcha, Chiaozu, and Yajirobe bite the big one...Thjis is the only time in the series were the Humans are close to Piccolo...

Piccolo did plain training,whereas the humans did special training at Kami's.They kinda closed the gap
with the demon.
At Saiyans Saga,Piccolo said that,when enraged,Gohan surpassed him.Gohan's blast to Nappa was
2.800 and it was an amplified one.So, 2800>Enraged Gohan>Piccolo.
Weighted Kuririn was at 1500 at the beginning of Namek Saga,meaning his unweighted form would be
at 1875.At Saiyans Saga,he couldn't be far behind that,i don't see him having that large gains from
the spaceship image training.
The fact that all humans did the same training doens't mean they all had proportionally the same
gains.It depends on a variety of factors.How much one's potential is,how much room he has to get
''the beginner's gains'' by a certain training method,how hard he trains.Yamcha did not totally
outclass the Saibaiman,so i have him somewhat relevant to that.
Where is it mentioned that Tien was wearing weights?

withheldforprivacy wrote:

Piccolo did plain training,whereas the humans did special training at Kami's.They kinda closed the gap
with the demon.
At Saiyans Saga,Piccolo said that,when enraged,Gohan surpassed him.Gohan's blast to Nappa was
2.800 and it was an amplified one.So, 2800>Enraged Gohan>Piccolo.
Weighted Kuririn was at 1500 at the beginning of Namek Saga,meaning his unweighted form would be
at 1875.At Saiyans Saga,he couldn't be far behind that,i don't see him having that large gains from
the spaceship image training.
The fact that all humans did the same training doens't mean they all had proportionally the same
gains.It depends on a variety of factors.How much one's potential is,how much room he has to get
''the beginner's gains'' by a certain training method,how hard he trains.Yamcha did not totally
outclass the Saibaiman,so i have him somewhat relevant to that.
Where is it mentioned that Tien was wearing weights?

1.I was agreeing with you their...
2.I put Piccolo att 2000-2200...Tenshinhan states Piccolo is still stronger, so Piccolo should have a 20-25% gap...
3.Kuririns weights shouldint be that much of a bonus....He only wears weights over his shirt...

At most he could be 1600...I like 1500-1550 since I like clean numbers...
4.Yes it does...Tenshinhan also is implied to be way stronger...Kuririn went down in 1 blast from Nappa, Tenshinhan took several hits and damaged him a bit with the Kikoho a bit...
5.Agreed...thats why I have Yamcha 1323 and Kuririn 1500...
6.He always wears weights when training....

This is from the kanzentai translation...

Vol. 42 / Chp. 517 It seems that he(Chaozu who follows Tenshinhan orders and obviously Tenshinhan ) trains often in northern provinces, and in the mountains he wears heavy clothing.

and look here, Tenshinhan is wearing weighted training clothes...



and when he senses Frieza/Cold hes wearing weights aswell...

also, he was on par with Weighted Son at the 23rd...so i doubt hes much weaker...

Piccolo was also not wearing any weights at his lower limbs,but got the same 1.25x boost as Goku
when he removed them.

Anyways...

Kuririns weights shouldint really give a bonus...

Team wins. Krillin and Tien have a chance of defeating him. The rest are just fodder.

Merle Dixon wrote:

Anyways...

Kuririns weights shouldint really give a bonus...

How about this...

Piccolo-2000
Tien-1750
Kuririn(weighted)-1400
Kuririn(unweighted)-1600
Yamcha-1400

withheldforprivacy wrote:

Merle Dixon wrote:

Anyways...

Kuririns weights shouldint really give a bonus...

How about this...

Piccolo-2000
Tien-1750
Kuririn(weighted)-1400
Kuririn(unweighted)-1600
Yamcha-1400

Niceeee. I couls get down with these...