Post Frieza Saga Power Levels

Ill make a pre Frieza power level list...

Notes:I believe the Super Saiyan boost is ALWAYS X50 except for Fusions...Fusion SSJ multiplier is very small because Fusions were created with 100% different rules...Fusion SSJ multipplier is very tiny...2-4X....This list is Anime based, and in the Anime Vegito does about the same against Boohan in base as Super Saiyan...

I am a minamlist...I use low gaps....95-100% is rivaling, 90-95% is close fight, 85-90% is a own, 80-85% is a one shot, and 66-70% is tanking...I like 70% for tanking personally...66-700% is for tanking amplified blasts...75-78% is enough to tank punches...I used to bloat levels but not anymore since its really not fun...

The Trunks Saga

Yamcha 450,000
Kuririn 500,000
Gohan 600,000
Tenshinhan 700,000
Vegeta 3,000,000
Piccolo 4,000,000
Kingcold 80,000,000
Mecha Frieza (70%) 105,000,000
SSJ Trunks 165,000,000
SSJ Goku 180,000,000

*I think Goku put all of his ki into his finger when he blocked Trunks attack...besides Trunks was testing him...I dont want to bloat the power levels this far...

*I say Mecha Frieza=SSJ Goku Namek since he brought Cold as back up...wouldint have if he was stronger...I think he got a bit stronger from the cyborg upgrades...

IMO Goku got a zenkai after Frieza hit him into the water and died....Before that when he was SSJ he was losing and when Frieza hit him into the water/rocks Gohan couldint sense his Ki...when the Dragon revived him he got a Zenkai and came back at 150,000,000...before that he was 2,700,000

Frieza (100%) = 140,000,000

SSJ Goku (Namek) = 135,000,000
~Base 2,700,000 (20-25% gap on Vegeta enough for a one shot)
~SSJ (Post Water) 150,000,000

Frieza gets a 10% increase from organic to Mecha...

Android Saga

Yamcha 3,000,000
Kuririn 3,750,000
Tenshinhan 4,500,000
Gohan 6,000,000
Android 20 175,000,000
Android 20 (Energy) 190,000,000
Android 19 165,000,000
Android 19 (energy) 200,000,000
SSJ Goku (Heart Virus) 210,000,000
Piccolo 240,000,000
SSJ Trunks 275,000,000
SSJ Goku 310,000,000
SSJ Vegeta 320,000,000
Cell (Initial) 360,000,000
Piccolo (Fusion With Kami) 405,000,000

*I dont think 20 got much of a boost from the energy...think about it he just absorbed Yamcha, one of Vegetas blasts which couldint be much since it was a warm up/blast meant to harm earth...Piccolo was very suppressed and 20 didint absorb him for that long...

Cell Saga

Android 18 410,000,000
Android 17 450,000,000
Piccolo (Full Power) 455,000,000
Piccolo (Gekkirettsu Kodan) 575,000,000
Cell (Humans Absorbed) 845,000,000
Android 16 875,000,000
Tenshinhan (Shin Kikohos) 1,150,000,000
Cell (#17 absorbed) 1,200,000,000
SSJ Trunks 1,450,000,000
SSJ Vegeta 1,500,000,000
USSJ Trunks 1,885,000,000
USSJ Vegeta 1,950,000,000
Cell (Fake Ki Perfect) 1,700,000,000
Cell (Warm Up) 4,000,000,000
Vegeta (Final Flash) 7,000,000,000
USSJ2 Trunks 5,000,000,000
Cell (Buff) 10,000,000,000

*USSJ2 is just a random multiplier...i dont really use multipliers for USSJ or USSJ2...I perfer just around 65X base for USSJ and for USSJ2 just random...

Cell Games Saga

Caroni 12
Piroshki 14
Mister Satan 15
Yamcha 3,100,000
Kuririn 3,800,000
Tenshinhan 4,750,000
Android 16 876,000,000
Piccolo 11,000,000,000
SSJ Trunks 11,000,000,000
SSJ Vegeta 12,000,000,000
Cell Juniors 12,500,000,000
MSSJ Goku 21,000,000,000
Cell 22,000,000,000
MSSJ Gohan 24,000,000,000
Cell (Sensu Bean) 26,000,000,000
Cell (Full Power) 72,000,000,000
Cell (Buff) 82,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan 96,000,000,000
Super Perfect Cell 110,000,000,000

*I believe Super Perfect Cell>SSJ2 Gohan....Gohans rage boost is proabably what Piccolo was reffering to during the Boo Saga, but I don't go by statements much and Piccolos estimations are almost always wrong in Boo...he thought Vegeta and Gotenks could beat Boo and Base Gotenks could beat Super Boo....

*Im not sure on the Base Saiyans powers here...I have Base Trunks at 220,000,000...havint done the Future Androids PLS yet but I would say their 300,000,000 to 320,000,000....Trunks went to Super Saiyan right away meaning he cant beat them...

World Tournament/Babidi Saga

Pintar 10
Videl 17
Mister Satan 19
Spopovich-???
Yamu-????
East Kaioshin 210,000,000
Majin Pocus 10,000-250,000,000
Yakon 400,000,000
Piccolo 12,000,000,000
SSJ Goten 16,000,000,000
SSJ Trunks 16,500,000,000
Dabura 20,000,000,000
SSJ Gohan 20,500,000,000
SSJ Vegeta 100,000,000,000
SSJ Goku 120,000,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta 400,000,000,000
SSJ2 Goku 480,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta 480,000,000,000
Fat Boo 3,000,000,000,000
Fat Boo (Learning) 3,500,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku 4,000,000,000,000
Base Gotenks 300,000,000,000
SSJ Gotenks 600,000,000,000

*not sure on Yamu or Spopiovch..they can be whever u want them really....
*I think Goku/Vegeta are FAr above SSj2 Gohan...even as Super Saiyans...after seven years of hardcore training they should be far above him and Vegeta said in Super Saiyan they surpassed him...besides Goku was training hardcore in other world...Piccolos statements make NO SENSE...
*Not sure on Pocus...he can be anywhere from 10K to 2500mil TBH...
*I believe Gohan was a Super Saiyan against Dabura....I dount he was better than Cell Games Goku...
*Their is no Super Saiyan 3 Multiplier....it brings out the users potential and varies from user to user./...I go by anime so I believe SSJ3 Goku>SSJ3 Gotenks...Gokus Super Saiyan 3 is obviously above Gotenk'ses as hes had far more time to train it and it yelds a much greater boost..

Fusion Saga

Base Gotenks (Post ROSAT) 1,000,000,000,000
SSJ Gotenks 2,000,000,000,000
Mr. Boo 1,200,000,000,000
Pure Evil Boo 2,600,000,000,000
Super Boo 3,800,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks 4,000,000,000,000
Gohan 5,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku 5,500,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta 480,000,000,000
Bootenks 7,800,000,000,000
Boohan 12,800,000,000,000
Vegito 50,000,000,000,000
SSJ Vegito 300,000,000,000,000

*no proof Super >>>>>>>>>>> Fat...Super is just the evil in complete control...
*Gotenks is MASSIVLEY stronger after the ROSAT...
*Goku did far better against Bootenks than Gotenks would have so he's stronger...
*Their is no fusion multiplier...its random....

Kid Boo Saga

Kibitoshin 19,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta 480,000,000,000
Mister Boo 1,200,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku 5,500,000,000,000
Kid Boo 5,700,000,000,000

Battle of the Gods

SSj3 Gotenks 4,200,000,000,000
Gohan 5,100,000,000,000
SSj2 Vegeta 7,000,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku 10,000,000,000,000
SSJG Goku 6,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus (70%) 7,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus (Full Power) 10,000,000,000,000,000
Whis 15,000,000,000,000,000

*Vegeta did FAR better against Beerus than Gohan..

End of Z

Uub (Rage) 5,700,000,000,000
Base Vegeta 2,000,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta 10,000,000,000,000
Goku 6,500,000,000,000,000

-Goku did not die at Freeza's,how did you think of that? Besides,zenkais are received from near death
experiences,not from deaths.
-Vegeta commented on 20's speed having increased after absorbing his blast,meaning he got a visible
boost.Not as big as 19's though.
-I think Future Trunks went SSJ against Future Androids for precautionary reasons,not neccessarily
because he couldn't take them in base.
-When the kids see Super Buu and notice he's changed,Piccolo says ''he's also more powerful''.So,
Super Buu>Fat Buu is confirmed.
-I don't know where you got that thought about SSJ3 and potential from,but,by that logic,the same
thing can be said about SSJs 1 and 2,so don't give multipliers at any transformation.
-SSJ3 Goku vs Buutenks is one of the most nonsense fillers (like that one where Goku lost to Mutaito).
Going by the gaps implied up to that point,Buutenks should've blinked Goku.

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-Goku did not die at Freeza's,how did you think of that? Besides,zenkais are received from near death
experiences,not from deaths.
-Vegeta commented on 20's speed having increased after absorbing his blast,meaning he got a visible
boost.Not as big as 19's though.
-I think Future Trunks went SSJ against Future Androids for precautionary reasons,not neccessarily
because he couldn't take them in base.
-When the kids see Super Buu and notice he's changed,Piccolo says ''he's also more powerful''.So,
Super Buu>Fat Buu is confirmed.
-I don't know where you got that thought about SSJ3 and potential from,but,by that logic,the same
thing can be said about SSJs 1 and 2,so don't give multipliers at any transformation.
-SSJ3 Goku vs Buutenks is one of the most nonsense fillers (like that one where Goku lost to Mutaito).
Going by the gaps implied up to that point,Buutenks should've blinked Goku.

1.Gohan said Gokus Ki had vanished...at least in the anime.
2.Eh, not really...he only absorbed Yamchas energy and a small blast from Vegeta....
3.Why not just one shot them in base than?.
4.Maybe slightly, but I doubt Super>>>Fat...Super is just the evil in control...makes no sense for him to be far stronger....
5.SSJ3 is the max potential of a user....Their would and should be no offical multiplier for it...
6.What implications?. Even in the manga Goku laughs at Super Boo (Piccolo Absorbed).

1.Shenron had already revived Goku.So,it was technically impossible.Also,as i said,even if we accept your crazy idea,
Goku couldn't have got a zenkai,because zenkais are only received when you survive fatal wounds,not when you're
revived.
3.I told you.He'd lived in a hellish future.He didn't want to take the slightest unnecessary risk.
4,6.
-Goku says to Fat Buu ''someone stronger than me will appear in 3 days''.He's talking about SSJ Gotenks pre spirit
room,meaning he's at least SSJ3 Goku's rival.Besides,it wouldn't make sense for Goku to send him against Fat Buu
if he was much weaker.
-SSJ Gotenks,post spirit room,has got hugely stronger.Then,he does two more transformations (SSJ2 and SSJ3, each
of them being another huge power up) and he barely surpasses Super Buu.
Now,imagine SSJ3 Goku fighting Super Buu's and SSJ3 Gotenkses powers added.He's stomped so hard that it's not
even funny.
In the manga,Goku says to Piccolo Buu ''Gohan can handle you now''.That doesn't mean that himself can do it too.

^Well, I go by the manga, and I based this list off the anime....anime wise SSJ3 Goku/Kid Boo>Super Boo...manga wise Super>>>>Kid/SSJ3 Goku...Im going to make my manga list than have a seperate list for the anime...

this list is anime based dude...

If you want to make SSJ3 Goku,Kid Buu>Ultimate Gohan,Super Buu why don't you use this theory...
When Goku and Vegeta defused in Buu's body,they each took half of Vegerrot's power.It seems that,
because the fusion was supposed to be permanent,their splitting ''tricked'' the potara mage into
giving half of the power to each.That could explain much filler,like Goku fighting Gotenks/Gohan as
SSJ and Goku/Vegeta fighting Super Buu as SSJs.

How would Super Saiyan as a addition multiplier look?.

would it be

Base Goku 3,000,000
~SSJ + 147,000,000

so everytime Goku goes SSJ it adds on 150?.

that would mean

300,000,000 = base
450,000,000 = Ssj

?

I also considered once seeing SSJ as an additive rather than a multiplier.But,this way,the
transformation would be practically useless by Cell Saga.Or maybe,when you master the state,the
additive increases.That could also explain Base Fusions being competitive at Buu Saga.